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		<title>By: Betty Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t our Egyptian sisters take tips from those who have fought very hard for societal (patriarchal) respect, such as those wondrous ladies of the pink (can&#039;t remember their official name) in India, who have finally earned some relative peace through the fear they have counter-imposed on offenders?
Another idea: Here in the U.S. amateur cell-phone videos are frequently used to record many violent crimes -- so why don&#039;t our Egyptian sisters record each other&#039;s victimizations as they happen -- so they can back up their complaints in court? If their complaint doesn&#039;t make it that far, then they can submit these indeniable records to the media, who are always looking for more stories. Wouldn&#039;t this at least bring public shame on the violating dogs that plague all these sisters? I look forward to your thoughtful response. Thanks for reading me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t our Egyptian sisters take tips from those who have fought very hard for societal (patriarchal) respect, such as those wondrous ladies of the pink (can&#8217;t remember their official name) in India, who have finally earned some relative peace through the fear they have counter-imposed on offenders?<br />
Another idea: Here in the U.S. amateur cell-phone videos are frequently used to record many violent crimes &#8212; so why don&#8217;t our Egyptian sisters record each other&#8217;s victimizations as they happen &#8212; so they can back up their complaints in court? If their complaint doesn&#8217;t make it that far, then they can submit these indeniable records to the media, who are always looking for more stories. Wouldn&#8217;t this at least bring public shame on the violating dogs that plague all these sisters? I look forward to your thoughtful response. Thanks for reading me.</p>
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		<title>By: leonfilin</title>
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		<dc:creator>leonfilin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zuhur</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuhur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/Actually, most women in Egypt DO wear proper hijab and as the study noted, even if they wear NIQAB, they are harassed.  This has been going on for years, but it is worse now whenever there are large crowds (the mulids, demonsrations, afer the eid, and probably yesterday after the big football game vs. Algeria).  It means women without the money for a car may suffer more - it is unbearable on the Metro, walking into it and out; taxi drivers expose themselves.  .   Some of the myths are that only pretty, or young girls are harassed (not true) only those who &quot;bring it on themselves&quot; (not true), it does not damage women or make them fearful and nervous (not true).  What would help? Sermons mentioning this issue; television and radio short ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/Actually, most women in Egypt DO wear proper hijab and as the study noted, even if they wear NIQAB, they are harassed.  This has been going on for years, but it is worse now whenever there are large crowds (the mulids, demonsrations, afer the eid, and probably yesterday after the big football game vs. Algeria).  It means women without the money for a car may suffer more &#8211; it is unbearable on the Metro, walking into it and out; taxi drivers expose themselves.  .   Some of the myths are that only pretty, or young girls are harassed (not true) only those who &#8220;bring it on themselves&#8221; (not true), it does not damage women or make them fearful and nervous (not true).  What would help? Sermons mentioning this issue; television and radio short ads.</p>
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		<title>By: AVerniks</title>
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		<dc:creator>AVerniks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: margohelp</title>
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		<dc:creator>margohelp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maysoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>maysoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(If men are &quot;the flies&quot; then maybe we should treat them like we treat flies!!!!) But please we should try to be more understanding of this argument. It is not just bad and good. As Egyptians we have to look hard at the real issues. If you want a good understanding of this topic, see two articles from Arabs in Europe (both men!). Khalid Diab, Egyptian writer in Brussels and Faisal Al Yafai, Lebanese writer in London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/egypt.gender 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/16/religion.gender</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(If men are &#8220;the flies&#8221; then maybe we should treat them like we treat flies!!!!) But please we should try to be more understanding of this argument. It is not just bad and good. As Egyptians we have to look hard at the real issues. If you want a good understanding of this topic, see two articles from Arabs in Europe (both men!). Khalid Diab, Egyptian writer in Brussels and Faisal Al Yafai, Lebanese writer in London.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/egypt.gender" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/03/egypt.gender</a><br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/16/religion.gender" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/16/religion.gender</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mahmood T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahmood T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are sick.

First off if a woman dresses indecently then she is haraam for a man, Islam stresses the Pure for the Pure.  Any man who harasses a woman needs to be shot dead where he stands.

Secondly women are harassed for simply not wearing the Hijab, or even women who wear the Hijab, and this is unacceptable.

If a woman dresses scantily she should be punished by the proper authorities and marginalized by greater society.

To the 38% of men who do not claim to harass women, stand up against oppression and form gangs to beat the hell out of, and even kill, men who harass women on the streets.  Violence is the only answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are sick.</p>
<p>First off if a woman dresses indecently then she is haraam for a man, Islam stresses the Pure for the Pure.  Any man who harasses a woman needs to be shot dead where he stands.</p>
<p>Secondly women are harassed for simply not wearing the Hijab, or even women who wear the Hijab, and this is unacceptable.</p>
<p>If a woman dresses scantily she should be punished by the proper authorities and marginalized by greater society.</p>
<p>To the 38% of men who do not claim to harass women, stand up against oppression and form gangs to beat the hell out of, and even kill, men who harass women on the streets.  Violence is the only answer.</p>
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		<title>By: shirien</title>
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		<dc:creator>shirien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok i think we should all just calm down. 


&quot;When you state this are you saying that if a woman does not wear hijab she is blameworthy for rape and other acts of sexual violence propogated gainst her? If that is indeed the case it is really a disgusting opinion to hold.&quot;

That makes no sense at all. Why would I even suggest that? In my statement I said she is blameworthy because she is not following the orders of Allah... i.e. a sin.

No where did I say she was asking to get raped. Statements shouldnt be over-analyzed and misconstrued. If I&#039;m here talking about a sister getting sins by not wearing proper attire.. then why in the world would i suggest that it&#039;s ok for a man to RAPE or harrass a woman not properly dressed? would that make sense islamically?


Studying psychology is one thing... but Wallahu alem. Allah knows the nature of both men and women best. When I say that men need to get married to fulfill their desires and to prevent fitnah... that&#039;s not something new that I made up.. read the various hadith that even recommend people to get married early..

There are no excuses for inappropriate behavior but there are definitely precautions and steps to take in order to ensure that the sickos out there Dont harm or harass our sisters. 

wallahu alem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok i think we should all just calm down. </p>
<p>&#8220;When you state this are you saying that if a woman does not wear hijab she is blameworthy for rape and other acts of sexual violence propogated gainst her? If that is indeed the case it is really a disgusting opinion to hold.&#8221;</p>
<p>That makes no sense at all. Why would I even suggest that? In my statement I said she is blameworthy because she is not following the orders of Allah&#8230; i.e. a sin.</p>
<p>No where did I say she was asking to get raped. Statements shouldnt be over-analyzed and misconstrued. If I&#8217;m here talking about a sister getting sins by not wearing proper attire.. then why in the world would i suggest that it&#8217;s ok for a man to RAPE or harrass a woman not properly dressed? would that make sense islamically?</p>
<p>Studying psychology is one thing&#8230; but Wallahu alem. Allah knows the nature of both men and women best. When I say that men need to get married to fulfill their desires and to prevent fitnah&#8230; that&#8217;s not something new that I made up.. read the various hadith that even recommend people to get married early..</p>
<p>There are no excuses for inappropriate behavior but there are definitely precautions and steps to take in order to ensure that the sickos out there Dont harm or harass our sisters. </p>
<p>wallahu alem.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another tidbit, but I suggest you (and by you I mean a general you) go study the psychology/background of sexual assaults.  If you did so you would come to understand that sexual aggression is not about lust or desire of the female form or a child&#039;s form for that matter.  It is driven by anger, rage, and frustration.  Which is why women covering from head to toe does not dissuade would be rapists, nor does the age of an 80 year old woman dissuade them.  Actually, even castration (whether it be chemical or physical) does not prevent sexual assaults.  It is also why saying &quot;these men just need to get married&quot; accomplishes nothing either.  Because marriage does not stop a man from committing acts of sexual violence, just like marriage does not make a man stop watching porn.

So to state that a woman&#039;s clothing dictates whether she will be violated or not and makes her in part to blame really displays a rather large ignorance about this topic in general.  So too, does saying that if it were easier for men to marry there would be less harrassment.  62% of men admit to harrassing women.  Are people really trying to say that all these egyptian men in this demographic are unmarried?!  I have no doubt that at least half of these 62% are most likely already married.

Anyways, sorry for my long winded posts.  I feel very strongly about this topic, due in large part to the fact that in 4 generations of women in my family I am the only one to never have been sexually assaulted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another tidbit, but I suggest you (and by you I mean a general you) go study the psychology/background of sexual assaults.  If you did so you would come to understand that sexual aggression is not about lust or desire of the female form or a child&#8217;s form for that matter.  It is driven by anger, rage, and frustration.  Which is why women covering from head to toe does not dissuade would be rapists, nor does the age of an 80 year old woman dissuade them.  Actually, even castration (whether it be chemical or physical) does not prevent sexual assaults.  It is also why saying &#8220;these men just need to get married&#8221; accomplishes nothing either.  Because marriage does not stop a man from committing acts of sexual violence, just like marriage does not make a man stop watching porn.</p>
<p>So to state that a woman&#8217;s clothing dictates whether she will be violated or not and makes her in part to blame really displays a rather large ignorance about this topic in general.  So too, does saying that if it were easier for men to marry there would be less harrassment.  62% of men admit to harrassing women.  Are people really trying to say that all these egyptian men in this demographic are unmarried?!  I have no doubt that at least half of these 62% are most likely already married.</p>
<p>Anyways, sorry for my long winded posts.  I feel very strongly about this topic, due in large part to the fact that in 4 generations of women in my family I am the only one to never have been sexually assaulted</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A girl IS blameworthy if she doesnt wear hijab because she is disobeying Allah ‘az wa jal.&quot;

When you state this are you saying that if a woman does not wear hijab she is blameworthy for rape and other acts of sexual violence propogated gainst her?  If that is indeed the case it is really a disgusting opinion to hold.   Or are you speaking purely about the fact that she should/shouldnot be wearing hijab and she is blameworthy for only that transgression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A girl IS blameworthy if she doesnt wear hijab because she is disobeying Allah ‘az wa jal.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you state this are you saying that if a woman does not wear hijab she is blameworthy for rape and other acts of sexual violence propogated gainst her?  If that is indeed the case it is really a disgusting opinion to hold.   Or are you speaking purely about the fact that she should/shouldnot be wearing hijab and she is blameworthy for only that transgression.</p>
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